Comments on: The usefulness of Christianity for politics http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/ The Reign of Christ Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:26:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Anthony Cowley http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-567 Anthony Cowley Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:42:43 +0000 http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-567 Of course, Biblical Postmillennialism does not say that things are getting better because we see it, or know it. You are right - it is God's word that says it. Yes, Mathison does a great argument, exegetical and logical for postmil views. Of course, Biblical Postmillennialism does not say that things are getting better because we see it, or know it. You are right - it is God’s word that says it. Yes, Mathison does a great argument, exegetical and logical for postmil views.

]]> By: D Hart http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-506 D Hart Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:46:15 +0000 http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-506 I much appreciate point #2 in Daniel Howe's post. I have long suspected that Englishness fueled American exceptionalism. Though it has certainly been ironic for the Scots and Scotch-Irish to embrace such exceptionalism. It reminds me of a line by the intellectual historian, David Hollinger, that multi-culturalism has done what 400 years of English rule never could -- turn the Irish into Anglos. On the politics of the church and N.T. Wright I am a little less comfortable. Wright sounds to me like Hauerwas. I like the latter's defense of sectarianism. But I fear both men fail to recognize the two kingdoms of the current age and make it a zero-sum contest between either Caesar or Christ. I believe Christian citizens have duties to each that need to be juggled -- sort of like Daniel in exile -- but that may give away the punchline of A Secular Faith. For me the place to find Christianity's politics is in the Book of Church Order -- always a fun read. I much appreciate point #2 in Daniel Howe’s post. I have long suspected that Englishness fueled American exceptionalism. Though it has certainly been ironic for the Scots and Scotch-Irish to embrace such exceptionalism. It reminds me of a line by the intellectual historian, David Hollinger, that multi-culturalism has done what 400 years of English rule never could — turn the Irish into Anglos.

On the politics of the church and N.T. Wright I am a little less comfortable. Wright sounds to me like Hauerwas. I like the latter’s defense of sectarianism. But I fear both men fail to recognize the two kingdoms of the current age and make it a zero-sum contest between either Caesar or Christ. I believe Christian citizens have duties to each that need to be juggled — sort of like Daniel in exile — but that may give away the punchline of A Secular Faith.

For me the place to find Christianity’s politics is in the Book of Church Order — always a fun read.

]]> By: Daniel Howe http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-496 Daniel Howe Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:18:05 +0000 http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-496 No ... decent? Honestly, my growing conviction as to the complexity of human endeavor and life in a fallen world has made me totally incredulous toward postmillenialism (or premillenialism). How can anyone say with a straight face "things are getting better (or worse)"? It takes a breadth and depth of knowledge available to the Creator, who says that the wheat and tares are growing up side by side. That is the height of modern (and non-modern) epistemic arrogance, in my view. What does Mathieson have to say? No … decent? Honestly, my growing conviction as to the complexity of human endeavor and life in a fallen world has made me totally incredulous toward postmillenialism (or premillenialism). How can anyone say with a straight face “things are getting better (or worse)”? It takes a breadth and depth of knowledge available to the Creator, who says that the wheat and tares are growing up side by side. That is the height of modern (and non-modern) epistemic arrogance, in my view. What does Mathieson have to say?

]]> By: Anthony Cowley http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-487 Anthony Cowley Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:00:20 +0000 http://deregnochristi.org/2007/03/27/the-usefulness-of-christianity-for-politics/#comment-487 Daniel: Good to hear from you. Have you read Mathieson's book on Postmillennialism? Tony Daniel:
Good to hear from you. Have you read Mathieson’s book on Postmillennialism?
Tony

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