W.H. Chellis

Topic:

The topic to be debated:

First, What is the problem in Reformed Christianity that Federal Vision is trying to fix?

Second, is it a real problem, and, if so, did/does the FV address it adequately?

Finally, if FV is inadequate, what alternative plan for addressing the problem do FV critics propose.

I think the problem Peter is noting is that Darryl is not satisfied that point one has been answered: What is the problem the FV is seekng to address. The question is this: What is wrong with the Reformed tradition. Does it have structural failings. Big picture question.

It seems Peter feels this has been answered and has tried to focus on the details of the debate (ie. does the FV address the problem adequatly).

Finally, put up or shut up time is stage three: What is the alternative of the critics. I think, in some sense, this has been a part of the discussion as the critics have continually presented a vision of an eccelesial, sacramental Calvinism rooted deeply in Reformed tradition.