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	<title>Comments on: Finally, Hope!</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony Cowley</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3237</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Cowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Knox wrote not against Elizabeth I, but against Bloody Queen Mary and probably had in view the then Queen of Scotland who trembled and wept at his presence and feared his prayers.  Calvin had critical things to say about Knox's First Blast of the Trumpet.  Poor timing, Johnny me boy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Knox wrote not against Elizabeth I, but against Bloody Queen Mary and probably had in view the then Queen of Scotland who trembled and wept at his presence and feared his prayers.  Calvin had critical things to say about Knox&#8217;s First Blast of the Trumpet.  Poor timing, Johnny me boy!</p>
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		<title>By: W.H. Chellis</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3235</link>
		<dc:creator>W.H. Chellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knox was wrong about Elizabeth I.  She was Gloriana and my daughter bears her name.

Palin may be disappointing when it comes to Russia but what a cultural Rorschach test. 

I find I have as little regard for the theonomic/hard right "women should be back in the kitchen" approach as I do the left's venom against Sarah Palin.  I remain hopeful that she will be our Maggie Thatcher.  Only time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knox was wrong about Elizabeth I.  She was Gloriana and my daughter bears her name.</p>
<p>Palin may be disappointing when it comes to Russia but what a cultural Rorschach test. </p>
<p>I find I have as little regard for the theonomic/hard right &#8220;women should be back in the kitchen&#8221; approach as I do the left&#8217;s venom against Sarah Palin.  I remain hopeful that she will be our Maggie Thatcher.  Only time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: shawnanderson</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3234</link>
		<dc:creator>shawnanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be too long to post here, but if you want to check out a few links to articles on the topic of Women and Mothers in office you can check it out here:

&lt;a href="http://shawnanderson.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/thoughts-on-current-events-re-voting-and-palin/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Thoughts on current events re: Voting and Palin&lt;/a&gt;

I have yet to be excited by politics in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be too long to post here, but if you want to check out a few links to articles on the topic of Women and Mothers in office you can check it out here:</p>
<p><a href="http://shawnanderson.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/thoughts-on-current-events-re-voting-and-palin/" rel="nofollow">Thoughts on current events re: Voting and Palin</a></p>
<p>I have yet to be excited by politics in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Zrim</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3233</link>
		<dc:creator>Zrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

It’s one and the same. That’s the point.

Re your invitiation around the world, yes, I know, that’s also the point. I am not so sure how Americans can at once blame “radical Muslim fundamentalists” for making those connections but go all misty when a guy who wants to lead us tags Jesus as his favorite philosopher. Is spoken theocracy really any different than a silent one? I'd feel better if it were admitted that it really has more to do with self-protection than a flimsy doctrine of church/state separation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>It’s one and the same. That’s the point.</p>
<p>Re your invitiation around the world, yes, I know, that’s also the point. I am not so sure how Americans can at once blame “radical Muslim fundamentalists” for making those connections but go all misty when a guy who wants to lead us tags Jesus as his favorite philosopher. Is spoken theocracy really any different than a silent one? I&#8217;d feel better if it were admitted that it really has more to do with self-protection than a flimsy doctrine of church/state separation.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh M.</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3232</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zrim said: "we agree that one’s theology can affect one’s politics" and then "religious confession has nothing to do with governing."  So which is it?

If you think religious confession has *nothing* to do with governing, I have some countries around the world I'd like to show you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zrim said: &#8220;we agree that one’s theology can affect one’s politics&#8221; and then &#8220;religious confession has nothing to do with governing.&#8221;  So which is it?</p>
<p>If you think religious confession has *nothing* to do with governing, I have some countries around the world I&#8217;d like to show you.</p>
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		<title>By: Zrim</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3231</link>
		<dc:creator>Zrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

Seems we agree that one's theology can affect one's politics, but just what that means is where it gets interesting. My theology tells me that, as roundly un-Presbyterian and fairly Methodist as it may be, it matters very little if a man tags Jesus as his favorite philosopher. He may even wear funny undergarments. My point about Caesar was that I am not so sure we 21st century American religionists, who assume governing and theological belief ought to be complimentary, appreciate well just what the implication to render unto him really seems to suggest: religious confession has nothing to do with governing. 

If we think rapturism is a problem in American-Israeli politics, try swallowing the pagan beliefs of Caesar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>Seems we agree that one&#8217;s theology can affect one&#8217;s politics, but just what that means is where it gets interesting. My theology tells me that, as roundly un-Presbyterian and fairly Methodist as it may be, it matters very little if a man tags Jesus as his favorite philosopher. He may even wear funny undergarments. My point about Caesar was that I am not so sure we 21st century American religionists, who assume governing and theological belief ought to be complimentary, appreciate well just what the implication to render unto him really seems to suggest: religious confession has nothing to do with governing. </p>
<p>If we think rapturism is a problem in American-Israeli politics, try swallowing the pagan beliefs of Caesar.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh M.</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3230</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zrim, note the phrase "conservatism's future," which is not the same as "governance."  Still, I wouldn't vote for a Mormon, and while I would vote for Paul, it is obvious that he is a classical liberal.  Dispies tend to wholeheartedly support Israel, and it was no surprise to discover that Palin met with AIPAC immediately after her nomination and she proudly flies the Israeli flag in her office.  Sort of makes the "Country First" slogan suspect, no?  

Yes, it's very surprising, but one's theology can affect one's political choices.  If I believed that, in order for the Rapture to occur, the nation-state of Israel had to be protected at all costs, and if I held the most powerful political position ever ... well, it isn't too hard to guess what choices I might make. 

Pantagruel, McCain's theology is Bush's, because polytheism is the de facto state creed right now.  If Palin does not pay lip service to it, then she will take serious heat.  So don't expect her to become President so easily, unless she joins the CFR and publically proclaims the validity of a myriad of religious beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zrim, note the phrase &#8220;conservatism&#8217;s future,&#8221; which is not the same as &#8220;governance.&#8221;  Still, I wouldn&#8217;t vote for a Mormon, and while I would vote for Paul, it is obvious that he is a classical liberal.  Dispies tend to wholeheartedly support Israel, and it was no surprise to discover that Palin met with AIPAC immediately after her nomination and she proudly flies the Israeli flag in her office.  Sort of makes the &#8220;Country First&#8221; slogan suspect, no?  </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s very surprising, but one&#8217;s theology can affect one&#8217;s political choices.  If I believed that, in order for the Rapture to occur, the nation-state of Israel had to be protected at all costs, and if I held the most powerful political position ever &#8230; well, it isn&#8217;t too hard to guess what choices I might make. </p>
<p>Pantagruel, McCain&#8217;s theology is Bush&#8217;s, because polytheism is the de facto state creed right now.  If Palin does not pay lip service to it, then she will take serious heat.  So don&#8217;t expect her to become President so easily, unless she joins the CFR and publically proclaims the validity of a myriad of religious beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3228</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, at least as being a Pentacostal and a dispensationalist it is likely that she at least understands the need for redemption.  McCain on the other hand in his acceptance speech, claimed that we "are all God's children."  Is that theology any better for the face of conservatism's future?
I think Palin WILL be our first woman president.  And when she is I think she will, at least while in office, stem the republicanism creep to the left. (I hesitate to use the terms conservatives and republicans interchageably.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, at least as being a Pentacostal and a dispensationalist it is likely that she at least understands the need for redemption.  McCain on the other hand in his acceptance speech, claimed that we &#8220;are all God&#8217;s children.&#8221;  Is that theology any better for the face of conservatism&#8217;s future?<br />
I think Palin WILL be our first woman president.  And when she is I think she will, at least while in office, stem the republicanism creep to the left. (I hesitate to use the terms conservatives and republicans interchageably.)</p>
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		<title>By: Zrim</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3227</link>
		<dc:creator>Zrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Palin is also a Pentecostal and a dispensationalist, which is not exactly what we want to be the face of 'conservatism’s future.'"

Why not? Would that mean you couldn't pull the trigger on Paul, being all Baptist? What about Romney? I guess I am wondering what tongues, end-times flow charts and golden plates have to do with governance. After all, Jesus himself told us to render unto he who thought he was--gulp--divine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Palin is also a Pentecostal and a dispensationalist, which is not exactly what we want to be the face of &#8216;conservatism’s future.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Why not? Would that mean you couldn&#8217;t pull the trigger on Paul, being all Baptist? What about Romney? I guess I am wondering what tongues, end-times flow charts and golden plates have to do with governance. After all, Jesus himself told us to render unto he who thought he was&#8211;gulp&#8211;divine.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh M.</title>
		<link>http://deregnochristi.org/2008/08/30/finally-hope/#comment-3226</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excited because ... Palin makes you feel good?

It is highly unlikely that Palin will play the Dick Cheney role to McCain's Bush.  It is also unlikely that she will win the Presidency after McCain's term(s) is over, since the last two VPs to do so were George H.W. Bush and Martin Van Buren.  Palin is also a Pentecostal and a dispensationalist, which is not exactly what we want to be the face of "conservatism's future."

Most importantly, the top of the ticket still says McCain.  *That* is the face of conservatism's future, always creeping leftward, rejecting traditionalism in favor of open borders, international governance, and abstract rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excited because &#8230; Palin makes you feel good?</p>
<p>It is highly unlikely that Palin will play the Dick Cheney role to McCain&#8217;s Bush.  It is also unlikely that she will win the Presidency after McCain&#8217;s term(s) is over, since the last two VPs to do so were George H.W. Bush and Martin Van Buren.  Palin is also a Pentecostal and a dispensationalist, which is not exactly what we want to be the face of &#8220;conservatism&#8217;s future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most importantly, the top of the ticket still says McCain.  *That* is the face of conservatism&#8217;s future, always creeping leftward, rejecting traditionalism in favor of open borders, international governance, and abstract rights.</p>
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